• Virginia Bill to Allow Children to Decide on Vaccines without Parents' Knowledge or Permission

    SB104 would add amend and reenact §54.1-2969 of the Virginia Code, relating to vaccinations/immunizations; minors; authority to consent. The bill would allow doctors or other medical workers to administer vaccines recommended by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) to a minor child of any age after obtaining “consent” of the minor child and making a determination that the child has the ability to understand the risks and benefits associated with vaccines at the same comprehension level as an adult. SB104 also legally makes a minor child an adult for the purpose of denying the child’s parents or legal guardian access to the child’s medical records that contain information on which vaccines the child has received. The Virginia legislative session moves very quickly and your immediate action and close monitoring of this bad bill is vitally important.

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  • Virginia Bill to Allow Children to Decide on Vaccines without Parents' Knowledge or Permission

    redpill- said:

    jorge said:


    Concerning the Nuremberg Code, it has to be known if it is legally effective in the USA. In other words, if it is part of the USA legal system
    No its not a legal bill but an ethical guideline. The US helped write and compose the Nuremberg Code but the US Senate refused to sigh it. Go figure. However, the medical establishment has acknowledged it's significance.
    FIFTY YEARS LATER: THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE NUREMBERG CODE
    Evelyne Shuster, Ph.D.

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM19971113...
    The Nuremberg Code has not been officially adopted in its entirety as law by any nation or as ethics by any major medical association. Nonetheless, its influence on global human-rights law and medical ethics has been profound.6 Its basic requirement of informed consent, for example, has been universally accepted and is articulated in international law in Article 7 of the United Nations International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (1966).6,22 Informed consent, with specific reliance on the Nuremberg Code, is also the basis of the International Ethical Guidelines for Biomedical Research Involving Human Subjects, the most recent guidelines promulgated by the World Health Organization and the Council for International Organizations of Medical Sciences (1993).

    This article is very enlightening. It also addresses the Declaration of Helsinki which focuses on the obligations of physician-investigators to research subjects, and the federal regulations emphasize the obligations of research institutions that receive federal funds.

    I am writing from Spain. In Europe we have the Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Dignity of the Human Being with regard to the Application of Biology and Medicine: Convention on Human Rights and Biomedicine; known as the Oviedo Convention for been that Spanish city were was held. It has been ratified by 29 countries, including Spain. Among those who don't sign it are Germany, France and United Kingdom. The Conventon is somehow a consequence of the Nuremberg Code.

    Article 2 – Primacy of the human being

    The interests and welfare of the human being shall prevail over the sole interest of society or science.

    Taking into account that the Oviedo Convention comes from the Council of Europe, although Spain has ratified it and so form part of our domestic law, it remains to be seen that it has the "force of law"

    I am saying all this because, at least in Spain, the doctrine of our Constitucional Court (the Supreme Court in USA) establishes the priorty of the public interest over the individual and considering that Courts are provaccine as well as asume the fake of the herd immunity and even vaccine is not mandatory in Spain, I wonder what will happen when a case come to court. I can't imagine in USA where, as you say, Nuremberg Code is not a legal bill.



  • Virginia Bill to Allow Children to Decide on Vaccines without Parents' Knowledge or Permission

    jorge said:

    Concerning the Nuremberg Code, it has to be known if it is legally effective in the USA. In other words, if it is part of the USA legal system

    No its not a legal bill but an ethical guideline. The US helped write and compose the Nuremberg Code but the US Senate refused to sigh it. Go figure. However, the medical establishment has acknowledged it's significance.

    FIFTY YEARS LATER: THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE NUREMBERG CODE
    Evelyne Shuster, Ph.D.

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM19971113...

    The Nuremberg Code has not been officially adopted in its entirety as law by any nation or as ethics by any major medical association. Nonetheless, its influence on global human-rights law and medical ethics has been profound.6 Its basic requirement of informed consent, for example, has been universally accepted and is articulated in international law in Article 7 of the United Nations International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (1966).6,22 Informed consent, with specific reliance on the Nuremberg Code, is also the basis of the International Ethical Guidelines for Biomedical Research Involving Human Subjects, the most recent guidelines promulgated by the World Health Organization and the Council for International Organizations of Medical Sciences (1993).

    This article is very enlightening. It also addresses the Declaration of Helsinki which focuses on the obligations of physician-investigators to research subjects, and the federal regulations emphasize the obligations of research institutions that receive federal funds.

  • Virginia Bill to Allow Children to Decide on Vaccines without Parents' Knowledge or Permission

    Concerning the Nuremberg Code, it has to be known if it is legally effective in the USA. In other words, if it is part of the USA legal system

  • Virginia Bill to Allow Children to Decide on Vaccines without Parents' Knowledge or Permission

    Redpill - Thanks for the text from the US Code and the Nuremberg Code.


    I have copied it and printed it out to show any medical personnel who try to pressure me into a vaccine, or any other medical procedure, that I legally have the right of informed consent and that I can say, "No."


    I will pass this valuable information on to friends!

  • Virginia Bill to Allow Children to Decide on Vaccines without Parents' Knowledge or Permission

    The bill is a nonsense at all. If even an adult is not aware of the side effects of the vaccines you can imagine a minor child. At the same time, there is a very important question left in the inkwell: Will parents be present when the doctors or medical workers ask the minor if he gives his consent? because doctors are very likely to be provaccines and will try to influence the minor's decisión who, as is known, is very influential

  • Virginia Bill to Allow Children to Decide on Vaccines without Parents' Knowledge or Permission

    So that means this bill if it passes should work both ways. If a child can consent to a vaccine without parental permission then they should also have the right to refuse a vaccine without parental permission.

  • Virginia Bill to Allow Children to Decide on Vaccines without Parents' Knowledge or Permission

    Parents can challenge this because the law of Informed Consent still applies. In order for a child to legally agree to be given a medical procedure they would have to understand exactly what is being done to them. The Law of Informed Consent is a Federal Law.


    38 U.S. Code § 7331. Informed consent

    The Secretary, upon the recommendation of the Under Secretary for Health and pursuant to the provisions of section 7334 of this title, shall prescribe regulations establishing procedures to ensure that all medical and prosthetic research carried out and, to the maximum extent practicable, all patient care furnished under this title shall be carried out only with the full and informed consent of the patient or subject or, in appropriate cases, a representative thereof.


    This also violates the Nuremberg Code.

    THE NUREMBERG CODE1.The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential.This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, over-reaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved, as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. This latter element requires that, before the acceptance of an affirmative decision by the experimental subject, there should be made known to him the nature, duration, and purpose of the experiment;the method and means by which it is to be conducted; all inconveniences and hazards reasonably to be expected; and the effects upon his health or person, which may possibly come from his participation in the experiment