• Family Seeks Answers on Baby's Death - Threatened Arrest for Trying to Record Last Moments of Life

    The Rivenburgs were not ready to say goodbye to Baby Steffen. On the morning of his death, Steffen's parents and grandparents were in court pleading for his life, but their cries were drowned out by the voices of others who literally argued for his death. The events surrounding Baby Steffen's death on Thursday afternoon, June 8, are disturbing, and the family wants answers. The prayer of thousands of people around the world was that Baby Steffen's heart would beat and that he would breathe when doctors at Monroe Carell Jr. Children's Hospital at Vanderbilt removed him from the ECMO machine. According to Lisa Rivenburg, that is exactly what happened. "His heart was beating!" But she says that the doctors didn't give him the option of surviving. A doctor told the family that his heart wouldn't beat for long, so they wanted to give him painkillers "to relax him." Just a short time before he was removed from life support, Baby Steffen was kicking his feet and moving his arms in response to his family. While his parents still pleaded for his life and for time with their baby, Lisa tried to record her grandson's final moments. She reports that a Vanderbilt police officer told her to stop recording: "I'm getting ready to arrest you." She said that he started to reach for something. She didn't know whether he was reaching for his handcuffs or gun or something else, but she stopped recording. Grandma did not get her phone back until she was seated in her car. She and the baby's parents were escorted under armed guard out of the hospital. "We were treated like criminals!"

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  • Family Seeks Answers on Baby's Death - Threatened Arrest for Trying to Record Last Moments of Life

    Justina's-Friend said:

    Steffen's story is unfortunately very similar to that of Hayden Hines-Blake, an infant with HLHS who died last year after the Loma Linda University Children's Hospital (well-known for infant heart transplantation) refused her a transplant before she was even born, then suspended her mother's parental rights after the mother asked an innocent question while Hayden was an inpatient. Hayden's mother's parental rights were eventually restored, but Hayden, having received many medications, surgeries, and other procedures that may or may not have been for her benefit (unconsented research?) while in CPS custody, died shortly after her final surgery.
    Like some children with HLHS, children who have received long-term ECMO support often do not have good prognoses for long-term survival. However, the fact that Steffen's case involved medical kidnapping forces me to ask the same question I asked about the death of Hayden Hines-Blake: are children with complex forms of congenital heart disease considered too expensive in our Obamacare-influenced medical system, and therefore sometimes encouraged to die via nonaggresssive treatment? Hayden Hines-Blake apparently died naturally after surgical complications, but Steffen's case seems to border on euthanasia. . .

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25150794

    If there is life after death, Steffen may have a friend in Hayden and hundreds (if not thousands) of other children like them.









    Not to overlook that "Baby Steffen was born with Down Syndrome ".Genetically 'imperfect' children were eliminated both in ancient Sparta and in the nazi Germany. Since the time of they quit performing forced sterilizations in U.S. in the first half of 20th century, the reprieve for genetically-'imperfect' part of the U.S. population has been short-lived . It has taken those, who hold the power, only a few decades to figure out: why bother with sterilizations, when you can end a life with a lethal injection in hospital disguised as 'treatment'. Parents ought to think twice before visiting geneticists. Like multiple other medical specialists within our financially driven healthcare system, they are not there to help children, as genetic conditions cannot be cured. In case of baby Stephen, with Down syndrome being pretty obvious, he was pretty much doomed, as soon as he entered the hospital.. Yet, there are multiple other genetic conditions that are not so obvious, which manifest themselves in the symptoms that are treated the same way as they would be in the general population. . Once your child gets a 'genetic' diagnosis, he becomes vulnerable to the multiple doctors Mengele inhabiting our healthcare system, who deem themselves gods entitled to decide who deserves to live and who would be 'better off' to die. Why do future mothers are encouraged to have prenatal testing done ? - to 'weed out' the imperfect children. Why do obstetricians recommend mothers to abort imperfect children, so they could try again for 'a perfect child' ? It's eugenics in action.

    "In God We Trust"...Indeed...

  • Family Seeks Answers on Baby's Death - Threatened Arrest for Trying to Record Last Moments of Life

    Steffen's story is unfortunately very similar to that of Hayden Hines-Blake, an infant with HLHS who died last year after the Loma Linda University Children's Hospital (well-known for infant heart transplantation) refused her a transplant before she was even born, then suspended her mother's parental rights after the mother asked an innocent question while Hayden was an inpatient. Hayden's mother's parental rights were eventually restored, but Hayden, having received many medications, surgeries, and other procedures that may or may not have been for her benefit (unconsented research?) while in CPS custody, died shortly after her final surgery.

    Like some children with HLHS, children who have received long-term ECMO support often do not have good prognoses for long-term survival. However, the fact that Steffen's case involved medical kidnapping forces me to ask the same question I asked about the death of Hayden Hines-Blake: are children with complex forms of congenital heart disease considered too expensive in our Obamacare-influenced medical system, and therefore sometimes encouraged to die via nonaggresssive treatment? Hayden Hines-Blake apparently died naturally after surgical complications, but Steffen's case seems to border on euthanasia. . .

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25150794

    If there is life after death, Steffen may have a friend in Hayden and hundreds (if not thousands) of other children like them.





  • Family Seeks Answers on Baby's Death - Threatened Arrest for Trying to Record Last Moments of Life

    Momma-T said:

    Since when are anesthesia drugs given for pain? I hope that dr has been reported to the state medical board.

    I don't know much about life support, but I have seen people on life support who looked "dead". I am convinced that this is outright murder. He had been in the hospital for many weeks and it costs money. I wish they would take the Title IV money that was used to pay for taking the children away from the parents and use it to help people instead of to destroy them. We don't need to destroy 70 or 80 children in efforts to save one.


  • Family Seeks Answers on Baby's Death - Threatened Arrest for Trying to Record Last Moments of Life

    Valerie said:

    Yet another horrifying story...
    Supporters have set up a Facebook page for the family called Reunite the Rivenburgs. There, supporters can find more information on how to help the family.

    Not everyone is subscribed to Facebook. I am one of those people. Can you give some information about helping the family?
    Thank you!
    Valerie

    donations are being taken up to pay for an autopsy. www.liamchangedtheworld.com is a nonprofit foundation that secured the release of the body to a funeral home and has provided tremendous support to the family. Donations can be made through Liam Changed The World and are tax-deductible. And you can email me lydiahubbell@msn.com if you want to know how else to help the family, or others like them.
  • Family Seeks Answers on Baby's Death - Threatened Arrest for Trying to Record Last Moments of Life

    Since when are anesthesia drugs given for pain? I hope that dr has been reported to the state medical board.

  • Family Seeks Answers on Baby's Death - Threatened Arrest for Trying to Record Last Moments of Life

    Shameful. What was there to gain by taking the baby off of the machines in this manner? Allow him to live as long as God intended..

  • Family Seeks Answers on Baby's Death - Threatened Arrest for Trying to Record Last Moments of Life

    Admin said:

    The Rivenburgs were not ready to say goodbye to Baby Steffen. On the morning of his death, Steffen's parents and grandparents were in court pleading for his life, but their cries were drowned out by the voices of others who literally argued for his death. The events surrounding Baby Steffen's death on Thursday afternoon, June 8, are disturbing, and the family wants answers. The prayer of thousands of people around the world was that Baby Steffen's heart would beat and that he would breathe when doctors at Monroe Carell Jr. Children's Hospital at Vanderbilt removed him from the ECMO machine. According to Lisa Rivenburg, that is exactly what happened. "His heart was beating!" But she says that the doctors didn't give him the option of surviving. A doctor told the family that his heart wouldn't beat for long, so they wanted to give him painkillers "to relax him." Just a short time before he was removed from life support, Baby Steffen was kicking his feet and moving his arms in response to his family. While his parents still pleaded for his life and for time with their baby, Lisa tried to record her grandson's final moments. She reports that a Vanderbilt police officer told her to stop recording: "I'm getting ready to arrest you." She said that he started to reach for something. She didn't know whether he was reaching for his handcuffs or gun or something else, but she stopped recording. Grandma did not get her phone back until she was seated in her car. She and the baby's parents were escorted under armed guard out of the hospital. "We were treated like criminals!"

    For starters did they do an eeg if they do an eeg that says if there is any activity in the baby brain. That's how they tell if a child or an adult they are brain dead. 2nd giving that drug is not the right drug to ease a person. That is called murder. They never give the dying those types of drugs. Usually it's morphine or something like that. This doesn't sound right. Sounds like they wanted to do it quickly. Never heard of this.

  • Family Seeks Answers on Baby's Death - Threatened Arrest for Trying to Record Last Moments of Life

    Yet another horrifying story...

    Supporters have set up a Facebook page for the family called Reunite the Rivenburgs. There, supporters can find more information on how to help the family.

    Not everyone is subscribed to Facebook. I am one of those people. Can you give some information about helping the family?

    Thank you!

    Valerie

  • Family Seeks Answers on Baby's Death - Threatened Arrest for Trying to Record Last Moments of Life

    Valerie said:

    Yet another horrifying story...
    Supporters have set up a Facebook page for the family called Reunite the Rivenburgs. There, supporters can find more information on how to help the family.

    Not everyone is subscribed to Facebook. I am one of those people. Can you give some information about helping the family?
    Thank you!
    Valerie

    From their FB page, make donations here: https://www.liamchangedtheworld.com/donations